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Cancer mitigation through fasting (NOTE: This is NOT medical advice nor am I seeking it)

Just found out I have a fairly rare ocular cancer: Chordial melanoma. Definitely malignant, will be metastatic if not already (testing upcoming to see my status).

Since I’m just now hitting 67 and semi-retired, there will be no expensive heroics, but we will try to postpone vision loss for as long as possible. Currently the ocular tumor is small and I’m experiencing no vision problems (just got cataract surgery/lens replacement, which is when the Doc spotted it).

Anyhow, I have done a great deal of late night study recently (new meaning to the phrase Google doc!) and have found extraordinarily positive indications about fasting / “fasting mimicking diet” as a treatment protocol.

MODS/ModBot: this has zero to do w/ a “doc” whose name begins w/ a “B” and rhymes w/ “schterg”.

I’m pretty revved up about doing this, and as time goes by will post occasional (every 60-90 days or so) reports about the path I’m choosing and how it’s going. Could go 5 yrs or so… this might get boring… actually, I hope it does!!

At first blush, it looks like keto (-ish) macros and something like ADF mixed w/ rolling 42-48 describes the most recommended methodology. While I’ll definitely lose weight, I don’t want to get frail until that just becomes inevitable. Higher end of normal BMI seems to have best statistical outcome.

[[This is not about life extension – rather, it’s about being in charge of a less crappy ending, and perhaps some useful knowledge to leave behind.]]

Stay tuned.

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As a cancer survivor (diagnosed at 34; 3 years out) I lurk on here to try and get motivated to fast. I’m currently underweight and love to exercise so it’s hard to imagine fitting it in. I’m at a point where I feel like a sitting duck waiting for it to come back.

You can do this. It’s a long hard road.

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I’m sure many here are very interested in your experience, and obviously wish you well.

I’ve read a lot of promising things about long term fasting and FMD. I have a couple of autoimmune things and my family health history is pretty grim. That said they all have terrible lifestyles.

During lockdown I gave up drinking, switched to a whole food, vegan diet and started getting up and going outside as soon as the sun rose so I could get some exercise and fresh air before anyone else was out. These were the early days when we didn’t knew much. These three things had such an impact on my life that I started digging a little deeper. They are now non negotiable parts of my life. Turns out there are so many simple, free and super accessible things we can do to dramatically improve the quality of our lives.

ETA I’m 50F. I thought id add that as a lot of Reddit commenters are young. I’m in the best physical and mental shape of my life. I used to get sick all the time and I hardly ever do now. I’m the only one in my office who hasn’t had 🦠vid and our global offices have been taken out by this flu.

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  1. Forget about type of food or whats advertised - what matters is ketosis. You can reach it by keto diet, but you can reach it while feeding on whole food, plant based (objectively healthiest) - by making longer multiday fasts.. Ketosis is healthy - the longer the better…

  2. Listen to your doc. If any chemo is prescribed - its best taken in the fasted state (24-48h) contrary to prev beliefs that you “need energy for chemo”. Prolonged fasts decrease dividing of healthy cells and help chemo focus only on cancer.

  3. Finally - in days when you feed - do a research on metformin, recent research points that it can be potent anti-cancer and cancer treatment adjuvant to any chemo. To be discussed with your onco doc. Many are aware of it, but industry is against cheap medications - so there is that factor…

Keep 💪

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As someone who works closely with cancer patients during treatment or when things go wrong, you really want to have a weight cushion. We consider people >65 years old with a bmi less than 25 to be “underweight.” That said, there are problems with BMI, so you should evaluate your body/muscle mass and make your own judgments obviously. I’m only suggesting to carry an extra 10-20 lbs around, just in case. Crazy things can happen and impact your quality of life quickly, and it’s hard to recover sometimes if you don’t have readily available fat stores. I wish you all the best!

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I’ve heard starting OMAD, 48 hours every weekend, 3 days around every chemo treatment, and a long one (10-20 days)to start and maybe every few months. Work up to it. Stay hydrated! Take advantage of those IV hydration visits in the hospital if you are doing chemo.

Broccoli sprouts, saunas, and lots of sunshine. Dwell on positive thoughts, your body and mind are the same thing. No seed oils at all costs. Be very wary of opioid painkillers, they take away everything from you, they are for when you are no longer fighting. Ask your doctor to state if they are doing palliative or curative care (for whatever you will do), it will help you understand their intent.

I’m sure you’ve done more research than me but I wouldn’t want to not say anything and assume you knew.

My dad died of pancreatic cancer this year and I found out to little to late to even try to help. The whole time it was just sugary drinks like boost and switching chemo every couple months to see if something magically worked.

I know the guy you are talking about. He isn’t very smart about what really goes on but a lot of his videos use a seed of truth from somewhere as a foundation so you can maybe trace that to the source.

You are doing what I would do after helping my dad through to the very end.

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I’ve read that cancer feasts on sugar, so keto will definitely be the way to go. Also, extended periods of fasting, like you describe, are supposed to have regenerative functions.

Well, it’s been some time since I tried to inform myself about this. Anyway, the best of luck and energy to you! Please keep us posted.

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Metastasised Choroidal melanoma in the family here.

Carnivore diet: beef, salt, water. Zero carbs removes the food that cancer cells feed on, as cancer is a metabolic disease. Prolonged fasting: 3 - 4 weeks to dramatically shrink tumours.

Have a look at Dr Ellen Davies, she has a great book called Fighting Cancer with Keto.

WatchDr Ken Berry for carnivore Dr Eric Berg for fasting. Specifically cancer keto fasting videos

Good luck Friend!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzPrxku1x5Y&t=19s Check Dr. Eric Berg DC on youtube. He also has other interviews with other cancer survivors. The gist is extended water only fasting, keto diet, avoiding glucose, carbs and glutamine, eating garlic, etc as far as I remember.

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You will likely also be interested in reading about press/pulse concepts. Dr. Dom DAgostino has discussed I’m various forums with respect to glioblastoma research.

Just something to consider. Keep in mind, it needs to be a type of cancer subject to the Warburg Effect.

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You might find this useful. Iirc one of them has fealty with cancer.

https://www.amazon.com.au/Ketogenic-Kitchen-Carb-Extraordinary-Health/dp/071716926X/ref=asc_df_071716926X/?tag=googleshopmob-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=341793927290&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16465773622830183719&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9071441&hvtargid=pla-455970545435&psc=1

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