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Doing Mostly Lazy IF with some benefit. Is there a need to get more serious and do a harder fast?

Hi Everyone,

First off, I wanted to thank you all for being such an inspiring subreddit.

A few years ago, through IF and Keto I dropped about 25 pounds (5’10 M, dropped from 222- 198). However, the pandemic hit, and I got really depressed and also eventually landed a really difficult job that required long hours, and basically ballooned back up to 230 at one point. In October I decided to get serious again and started hitting the gym 3-4x week (30-40 lift, 25-30 mins hard swimming + sauna). In October I was at 224. In December I was at 222, and while I definitely had strong muscle gains and felt my waistline come down, I wasn’t really seeing the scale move.

Since December I’m down to about 212. However, it definitley looks like I’ve lost more than 10lbs. I’ve gained a good amount of muscle in the meantime too, and my face looks a lot slimmer. My jeans are starting to feel very loose (and I might need to size down from a 34 to 33).

I’m doing a lazy IF to balance out a really stressful work schedule (I usually work 65+ hours/week). and still hitting the gym 3-4x per week.

Because of my schedule, my routine is:

Morning (2 Cups of coffee with a dash of oatmilk, 2 fish oil tablets, 2 ACV tablets, Multivitamin, and 4 collagen tablets).

I then usually eat about 1200-1400 calories between 12-4PM, and generally stop eating (I move this time frame around a bit to accommodate dinner commitments etc.). Also I might have a more ‘flex’ style on weekends just to make life a bit easier.

I also occasionally drink a Liquid IV (45 calories) just to quash hunger pings.

What I wanted to ask, is: is there a benefit to actually doing a hard 20:4. (I could do it, I’m almost there, but it just makes life like 40% more difficult). Would there actually be a substantial impact on the progress I’m seeing? If there is, I’m willing to do it, but just wanted to hear how others have done it?

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Answer

Have you spent time reflecting on why you regained all the weight you previously lost, and what you can do long term to maintain the weight you are re-losing? I don’t see any benefit to “hardening” your fast except to satisfy your impatience for results, which is understandable but perhaps unwise.

You’re already sustaining a large calorie and consistent weight loss under the current system. Another month or two of consistent effort and you’ll be down to 190. You’ll be there in March! What’s a long term eating strategy look like for you? That’s a more important question than wether you should fast harder to lose fat more quickly. Of course you can do that, but what comes next?

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